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[P562045]

How did that even get into the L.A. Times?

They could have had an aliens for Obama story instead.

So sorry for such partisan thinking. I would have simply deleted it but then people would not know what the comments are about.

I will try to read about the people writing the story before I let anything else get here.

Just another reason to stick to the main things that are coming up such as vice president choice, speech convention, and the first debate.

No more of my own comments just let the people read what Obama said and let them decide for themselves.

That is what it is all about in the first place now isn't?

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Boy did I lie. I just can't resist some stories like this and I could probably do ones like this at least two or three times a week or more actually.

Now don't worry this is from an excellent source that will not be so easily dismissed. The writer of this article is a law professor at the University of Colorado. He makes an excellent point about how some news stories become news stories in the first place.

I wonder how often I could find a news story about something that really should not concern us but people obsess over it because they worry it might hurt Obama's chances in the Fall.

Now we could stretch this type of story into being concerned about Obama's health but I think Obama being to thin would be less of health concern than say if Obama was as rotund as say someone like President William Howard Taft who was one of our fattest president's ever.

So someone who is a reporter at the Wall Street Journal probably had a "hard" deadline asked this question on a Yahoo message board.

"Does anyone out there think Barack Obama is too thin to be president? Anyone having a hard time relating to him and his 'no excess body fat'? Please let me know. Thanks!"

Now I know we live in how people looks determines if we like someone obsessed country but is this type of question just asked really relevant to the question of will Obama make a good president or not?

I have a much better question than the question I just quoted. What makes people think that Obama would make a better president than that McCain fellow?

The good law professor who wrote the article did not ask the stupid question of is Obama thinness a concern. The professor was commenting on how something like this question that was asked why would something like this even become a news story in the first place. That is a very good question Mr. Campos who was the one that wrote this particular article.

Another excellent question would be. What other news stories are being "manufactured" for Obama's sole benefit as well?

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Oh wait my second to last article looked like it was being "manufactured" for the sole purpose of making McCain look better than he really is.

Where in the heck do I find news that is not "manufactured" about either one of these people that are running for president actually?

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it's obvious you missed the point of my post. author aside (as i didn't expect anyone to actually be familiar with his work although it is well read in some circles) i was hoping someone would point out the hypocrisy in posting it and the accusations it contained.

but......

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So Obama and McCain were at a megachurch (Indiana Jones hates snakes, I hate megachurches) last night answering the same questions in seperate interviews by the church's pastor.

Anyways, one of the questions goes alongside a big theme Jesus talked about, being rich (oooo the prosperity theologians may not like these answers, but I doubt it given we're talking about politicians).

Obama at first joked that being rich was "having $25million in book sales" (ribbing the pastor guy a bit). Than he points out that if you make $250k you're in the top 3-4%, which is pretty close to accurate (honestly I was surprised that was correct when I looked it up). Than talks a bunch of stuff about tax cuts and

McCain's answer kind of weaves and bobs around selling some story before giving a non-answer answer.

“Some of the richest people I’ve ever known in my life are the most unhappy. I think that rich is — should be defined by a home, a good job and education and the ability to hand to our children a more prosperous and safer world than the one that we inherited. I don’t want to take any money from the rich. I want everybody to get rich. I don’t believe in class warfare or redistribution of the wealth. But I can tell you for example there are small businessmen and women who are working 16 hours a day, seven days a week that some people would classify as, quote, ‘rich,’ my friends, who want to raise their taxes and raise their payroll taxes. Let’s have — keep taxes low. Let’s give every family in America a $7,000 tax credit for every child they have. Let’s give them a $5,000 refundable tax credit to go out and get the health insurance of their choice. Let’s not have the government take over the health care system in America.

“So I think if you’re just talking about income, how about $5 million. But seriously, I don’t think you can — I don’t think, seriously that — the point is that I’m trying to make here seriously — and I’m sure that comment will be distorted, but the point is — the point is — the point is that we want to keep people’s taxes low and increase revenues. And my friend, it was not taxes that mattered in America in the last several years. It was spending. Spending got completely out of control. We spent money in a way that mortgaged our kids futures. My friends, we spent $3 million of your money to study the DNA of bears in Montana. Now I don’t know if that was a paternity issue or a criminal issue, but the point is — but the point is it was $3 million of your money. It was your money.

“And you know, we laugh about it, but we cry and we should cry because the Congress is supposed to be careful stewards of your tax dollars. so what did they just do in the middle of an energy crisis when in California we are paying $4 a gallon for gas, went on vacation for five weeks. I guarantee you, two things they never miss, a pay raise and a vacation. And we should stop that and call them back and not raise your taxes. We should not and cannot raise taxes in tough economic times. So it doesn’t matter really what my definition of rich is because I don’t want to raise anybody’s taxes.”

So McCain cant even give a "straight talk answer" on being wealthy?

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Obama and McCain talk about some issues at a pastor's forum.

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I think BOTH candidates did a good job and I like this format instead of a traditional debate.

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Originally Posted by rich76

I think BOTH candidates did a good job and I like this format instead of a traditional debate.

For the most part I agree with you Rich. I watched it on youtube since the ol' watering hole had the olympics on (and really watching Dara Torres win silvers, Phelps the 8th gold, and that older Romanian girl win the marathon was a better use of tv time IMHO )....but to my eyes Obama seemed to have won over that pastor while McCain won over the crowd (and replace "won over" with "got polite respect" and vice versa it). And both seemed to have met their goals in regards to evengelicals (Obama reaching out them even if its more or less a futile cause, McCain trying to rally them over to his side despite their doubts about him), and Ive seen people on both sides argue their candidate "won more", but to me its pretty much a moot point.

Some tough questions, though not the most hardball in the world either. Sadly (though not unexpectedly) that Warren guy is about 10 notches above what we saw from traditional media people during the primaries.

Mark Halperin over at Time's blog gave each candidate an A- for their performance, and I cant disagree much with that assessment (ok the end is near if Im agreeing with him).

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I think that McCain really had a "senior" moment when he said a rich person had about $5,000,000.

What is McCain doing comparing his fellow rich senators such as Mrs. Clinton as the only people who are rich?

Now according to Obama a rich person only makes $200,000 or more. Just go to the very first post in this thread.

Senator McCain was almost $5,000,000 off according to Obama.

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I think that pastor Warren even got some honesty out of these people.

I know amazing two presidential candidates being honest during a presidential race.

Oh the horror.

This is a very open and honest comment by one of these two presidential candidates which one was it?

"I was so obsessed with me and the reasons I might be dissatisfied, I couldn't focus on other people,"

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actually i have to say i was impressed with both candidates overall. each had their strong points for example McCain on abortion (while I might argue his position at least he was upfront and definitive on it) and his retelling of his stay in the POW camp was moving and impossible to criticize.

Obama's answer to class levels was clearly more thought out and definitely showed a larger concern to the plight of the american middle class than McCain's and his answer on who he wouldn't have nominated for the court was clearly more thought out and less partisan than his counterpart's (although what was he thinking accusing anyone of being too inexperienced given the way the GOP has been trying to paint him?)

Sadly, both also failed to impress me with more than a couple of their responses.

McCain's response on the middle class was disrespectful and all but admitted he could care less about them (well at least when compared to the wealthy they are clearly second rate in his opinion) and his answer to the court nominations was clear partisanship with little to no thought involved.

On the other hand, Obama totally blew the abortion question. Regardless of one's position on it, you really need to have more to say than "answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade" And his response to the most gut wrenching decision he's ever made was so bland it made me cringe.

all in all i'd have to agree and call it a tie. but it did show some separation between the candidates on important issues and hopefully will help to shape some interesting and revealing debates next month.

[P562045]

Well Obama was raising just under eight million big ones in three campaign stops in California.

Obama said he was going to win.

What was he supposed to say I am going to lose to the worst presidential candidate since Mondale probably.

Mondale was not that bad really and he had to go up against that Reagan fellow it was just not fair.

So I guess McCain is the worst presidential candidate since a fellow Arizonan that Goldwater guy that raised a few eyebrows by actually trying to raise heck against the new deal. No wonder democrats really portrayed Goldwater as a very extremely bad guy that would make the president we have now look like the greatest president we have had since F.D.R..

I love this quote from Ms. Pelosi.

She is talking about one of the presidential candidates and it not McCain, Nader, McKiney [sp?] or Bob Barr for that matter.

"a leader that God has blessed us with at this time."

I have to quantify this for Ms. Pelosi and she means only if there are 59 democrats in the senate. If there are more than that I can't wait for what the democrats are just waiting to get the country back to a sense of balance and dare I say it fairness. And I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt several things will happen. The war on terror will not be focused on even when it needs the country's focus and programs that are run by the government just as an example health care will be on the primary focus of the congress. Health care will just be the start of "fixing" things that have been needed to be fixed for well over a decade plus and do I really need to give the full list of democrats pet projects yet again.

I must admit that this is from what would be considered a political tabloid but tabloids can get it right as well right Mr. Edwards?

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[P562045]

So sorry to even infer by referencing Obama in the same post as Mondale.

Oh wait they both ran around saying they wanted to end a war.

Mobama has such a nice ring to it.

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That's just the usual campaign rhetoric, especially when used at a fundraiser cause people like bankrolling winners. There's a few times in the past week or 2 or 3 Ive seen McCain calling himself President or doing the "WHEN Im President" bit. And I remember the same style of rhetoric from Bush/Kerry and Bush/Gore.

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Originally Posted by P562045

So sorry to even infer by referencing Obama in the same post as Mondale.

Oh wait they both ran around saying they wanted to end a war.

Mobama has such a nice ring to it.

There was a war in 1984? Well there was Oceania versus Eurasia than Eastasia

Honestly all the history books tell me about Mondale's campaign was "where's the beef?".