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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 11:44 AM
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After finally getting in this morning, I am now trying to make my buys for today. I can get to the market page, but when I click on buy, it says that trading is suspended. I don't know when else I would be able to do them, as I could not before the normal divi time. Are you planning on two days of divis tomorrow, or some other option? If doubling up, I'm not sure I want to fill my monthly and quarterly. Please advise. Thanks.
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 11:46 AM
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reopened for now while we figure out how to handle all this......having problems gaining access to do things we need to do......like stopping the market from resetting, etc....even running divis right now...

...but we're gonna need to close it back up again in a few minutes..............there's no absolutely 'right' way to handle situations like this
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 11:53 AM
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Beware the ides of March (or something like that...) Thanks - I am sure things will work out as fairly as possible.
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 01:59 PM
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I was not able to make buys in monthly or TV.....or sells in TV. I was also not able (obviously) to make my pick10 buys. Is that tough noogies for me?
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:14 PM
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Im with u Rich. I fealt like Arod with the Yankees. Like I dont belong. LOL j/k Its March Madness BABY! Im done with J$ until April.
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:16 PM
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Same here. I make most of my buys in the AM and got hosed this morning. I guess LT'ing NBA & NHL ('cept goalies) pays off sometimes...
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:34 PM
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.......there's no absolutely 'right' way to handle situations like this
If by right you mean that nobody will be upset, true.

If by right you mean that people are treated fairly, false.

I got messed around a little.. but no where near what those two gentlemen above me got. By employing the (clearly wrong) solution that you did, you're saying either "stay awake until the last whistle is blown" or "take a guess or two for the gipper".

The only clear solution when there is no site access two hours (or more) prior to divis is :
RESET back to the previous morning's pre-divi and SCRAP the day in question. That is the only fair way. Sure, peeps will be pizzed that their day's "efforts" were in vain -- and rightfully so. But that is a lesser evil than allowing some with full ports to compete with partial ports and with empty ports. That is just WRONG.
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:40 PM
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You live and learn everyday.... You think of new ways on how to run a game, or run your life....

---- happens... 98% of the time the site is up and running fine.... Losing a day... Losing a few buys... Isn't going to kill much... Unless you are talking about ur monthly and 1/4ly comps....
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:43 PM
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Thanks for the eloquence Randy. I could not have expressed my thoughts better. Now if it wasn't bad enough that work was causing me to , now my relaxing world of J$ is


Well - St. Patty's Day is but a work day away!!!! For that
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:45 PM
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Thanks for the eloquence Randy. I could not have expressed my thoughts better. Now if it wasn't bad enough that work was causing me to , now my relaxing world of J$ is


Well - St. Patty's Day is but a work day away!!!! For that

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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:47 PM
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If by right you mean that nobody will be upset, true.

If by right you mean that people are treated fairly, false.

I got messed around a little.. but no where near what those two gentlemen above me got. By employing the (clearly wrong) solution that you did, you're saying either "stay awake until the last whistle is blown" or "take a guess or two for the gipper".

The only clear solution when there is no site access two hours (or more) prior to divis is :
RESET back to the previous morning's pre-divi and SCRAP the day in question. That is the only fair way. Sure, peeps will be pizzed that their day's "efforts" were in vain -- and rightfully so. But that is a lesser evil than allowing some with full ports to compete with partial ports and with empty ports. That is just WRONG.
While I empathize with Orren being between a rock and a hard place and would not want to be making that decision on the run as it were......I, too, have to believe that resetting to yesterday would be the only fair way. Now...that being said...had all of my picks been in and I didn't get unintentionally hosed...would I feel the same way? A resounding YES...as it HAS happened before and I took the position of resetting. Thanks Randy.......
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 02:49 PM
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If by right you mean that nobody will be upset, true.

If by right you mean that people are treated fairly, false.

I got messed around a little.. but no where near what those two gentlemen above me got. By employing the (clearly wrong) solution that you did, you're saying either "stay awake until the last whistle is blown" or "take a guess or two for the gipper".

The only clear solution when there is no site access two hours (or more) prior to divis is :
RESET back to the previous morning's pre-divi and SCRAP the day in question. That is the only fair way. Sure, peeps will be pizzed that their day's "efforts" were in vain -- and rightfully so. But that is a lesser evil than allowing some with full ports to compete with partial ports and with empty ports. That is just WRONG.
Clearly wrong, eh? How is what we did clearly wrong? there IS no 'clear'.

Reset back to the previous morning- you say that like it's possible to do, without a hitch, at the push of a button....it's not...and times we HAVE done that, there's been problems to resolve anyway.

2 hours or more as a rule? Ok...let's say you leave the site at midnight, get back onsite to finalize things at 8am....site is running normal. Then the '2 hour rule' goes into effect 'cause, unbeknownst to you, the server was down from 3-5am. No divis....fair? Or...the server is down only Nick and I are sleeping and don't even know it was down then back up.

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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 03:27 PM
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If by right you mean that nobody will be upset, true.

If by right you mean that people are treated fairly, false.

I got messed around a little.. but no where near what those two gentlemen above me got. By employing the (clearly wrong) solution that you did, you're saying either "stay awake until the last whistle is blown" or "take a guess or two for the gipper".

The only clear solution when there is no site access two hours (or more) prior to divis is :
RESET back to the previous morning's pre-divi and SCRAP the day in question. That is the only fair way. Sure, peeps will be pizzed that their day's "efforts" were in vain -- and rightfully so. But that is a lesser evil than allowing some with full ports to compete with partial ports and with empty ports. That is just WRONG.
I gotta agree with this. Myself I was 1 buy shorted today, 2 last time. Not the end of the world.
I know Orren/Nick are spending a lot of time with all the upgrades. Maybe slow down on them and put together a page covering the rules for the unusual events we incur. I know things will come up not covered, you will bite the bullet and make a quick decision when they do, then add it to the page.
I'd rather you make a decision I disageed with as opposed to opening it up to discussion at the time it happens. Just to much uncertainty for too long while everyone voices opinions.
Just my opinion for what it's worth.
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 03:32 PM
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I gotta agree with this. Myself I was 1 buy shorted today, 2 last time. Not the end of the world.
I know Orren/Nick are spending a lot of time with all the upgrades. Maybe slow down on them and put together a page covering the rules for the unusual events we incur. I know things will come up not covered, you will bite the bullet and make a quick decision when they do, then add it to the page.
I'd rather you make a decision I disageed with as opposed to opening it up to discussion at the time it happens. Just to much uncertainty for too long while everyone voices opinions.
Just my opinion for what it's worth.
I gotta agree
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Unread 15 Mar 2007, 03:45 PM
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Well I'm certainly not opposed to putting some policies in place.....as long as you guys understand that sometimes my and/or Nick's availabilty is also an issue...and that putting things into place to go back may also cause extra server loads at times necessary backups are made, etc.....

For the past couple years now I've been primarily working at home...meaning I've been fairly available as needed to deal with things. That's about to end () at least for awhile......
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