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Unread 14 May 2018, 07:10 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/14/polit...urt/index.html

I haven't been following all this maybe nearly as much as I should've been. There is potentially a significant impact for Jockstocks, after all, opening up options we've not had before (and no, not talking about turning this into a gambling site)

What do you think of all this? Do you think it's as much of a positive as proponents do?
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Unread 15 May 2018, 08:53 AM
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I don't think it will be much of deal either way. Many states already have casinos where people can gamble. I must say it not really clear to me where exactly people will be able to bet on sporting events.

Then there are states that have horse racing. And some people gamble right at the track.

Some states have lotteries.

So I have given several examples where people can legally bet in a variety of ways already in many states. I don't think the sky is falling like some people would want to point out. I must also say the number of these people have fallen over the decades.

I do think the states that receive extra money from sports gambling need to find a positive way to spend the money. Such as a youth sports safety program or something similar to teach young people to play sports the right way.
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One other thing to consider about this Nevada has had legal betting on sports in the state for a long time. I am adding this a little latter sports gambling in Nevada has been around since 1949 which is almost 70 years ago.
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Unread 15 May 2018, 01:16 PM
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I can't speak for other states, but video lottery proceeds in South Dakota primarily go towards education.

What I personally need to delve into is whether this change would allow us to add things here to generate revenue....again, not talking about changing the current game or turning it into a gambling site, nothing of the kind....but does it open the door, for example, for a parallel market involving real dollars.
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Unread 15 May 2018, 05:46 PM
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I hope so...............
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Is a video lottery like a slot machine or does someone pick numbers and the machine tells them if they won or not?

One other question are these video lottery units primarily in bars or in more public places?

I must admit I was not even aware of this until you mentioned it.

This brings up another point that gambling is more a part of our lives than we can even imagine. I think that there was over a billion dollars of illegal bets just on the Kentucky Derby earlier this month.

One other thing to mention about this it will be interesting to see how the various sports leagues try to handle this as we have been discussing one of the challenges will be how is each individual state going to be dealing with what we are discussing going forward.
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Unread 16 May 2018, 07:33 AM
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Typically, video lottery machines are located primarily in drinking establishments. If not, in other areas where there are age restrictions (21 and older). Games on the machines have been typically poker, blackjack, and keno although the last few years there have been newer games that more closely emulate slot machines. The state generally gets half the proceeds because it's their software running the games while the bar owner and the machine vendor split the other half.

I don't agree with Cuban who has said this instantly doubles the value of every sports franchise, because I don't know that legalizing betting necessarily drastically increases it. Illegal gambling has been quite extensive, now some of that just becomes legal.

Some states are more ready to move into this than others. Some already have laws in place, some have them pending, others will put the wheels in motion now. South Dakota, it appears, is 2 yrs from even voting on it.

To me, this should be done at the federal level- it would make things more consistent and reduce the cost of each state not just putting it together but regulating it. I'm betting some states will do something of a group effort to reduce costs.

From my end, determining what this means regarding the internet is my interest. Can it only be available if it's legal in your state? Can a company provide access only if it's legal in the state they're based in? That's just skimming the surface of questions.
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Unread 16 May 2018, 10:34 AM
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We SERIOUSLY do not need the feds getting involved in anything involving our hard earned $$$. They have proven, all too often, that they are incapable.
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I would guess the bigger sports leagues would want some kind of federal standard because they would have fewer rules to deal with than if each state is making up their own rules.

I disagree with Cuban as well and the main reason being I don't think just because the laws may change does not make a person more likely to gamble than they did before is kind of stretch. I would think many people have many different reason why they gamble in the first place and I somewhat doubt that the changing of the rules are going to motivate a person to gamble even more.

New Jersey has been thinking about this for awhile and it sounds like they will be trying something by the end of this month. And yes they were a part of group that challenged the law that the Supreme Court ruled on the other day. Then I heard about 14 other states are going to try something in the near future.

It is an interesting question for us because wading just through 15 different states laws would be quite challenging when it comes to what is allowed and not allowed. I can see it now we have a bunch of different markets for each of the different rules. This also brings up the point this will take time to sort out.
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Unread 16 May 2018, 01:24 PM
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Rich, that assumes the states would do any better

P, it's not that there'd be different rules HERE per state, it's a matter of understanding the laws as they pertain to the internet
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Unread 16 May 2018, 05:39 PM
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It is my opinion, as in most situations, that lawyers will make laws that only benefit themselves and other lawyers. The more litigation there is the better they like it. It is how this country has been run for decades..........and it is pure
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http://www.sportselect.wclc.com/Game-Lists.htm

this is something the government here does very well and has for many years now.

IMO: Impact on the game will be minimal....having some action on this end tends to attract more interest so i would expect a slight uptick in viewer ratings...thereby making the franchises worth a little more....double??...nah.

can buy lotto/sportselect at any lottery terminal which is at every convenience store and/or gas station.

* could this legalisation be because they've given up on trying to police it on the internet?:hmm
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Dave....just like here. They couldn't stop it so they found a way to tax it instead.
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Yep... Get on the blockchain revolution..
Anyone can make a coin...
Just need a purpose - sports stats

Jockstock coin...

Daily comps, completely separate from your established stuff..
Still done with stats - but no divis - more a fantasy sport type deal. Tweak that - spin a different style..

Set it up through Hong Kong... Target the Indian market...
Spend coins to win coins... Plenty of ways to give out free coin to guys established here..

If you need a coder to help stocky.. I can find you lots of folk.. .also give you access to someone who can talk you through all the set up stuff...

Cryptocurrency won't ever die, the technology won't let it.. It is the new internet
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I've thought about using it, but hadn't thought about creating it.
I need to read up more on this.
Many many ways to go about it all, really...from the coin to how to use it

good to 'see' ya!
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Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all.
Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together.
I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it.
Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike?
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