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Good lord, why don't they just change the name of this pathetic network to Move-on-dot-org-NBC?
Keith Olberman and now Rachel Maddow who has been interviewing the "super intelligent" Bill Mahr ad nasuem.

This network hires such hyperbiased rejects who have the gall to present themselves as news reporters. And they wonder why their ratings are so poor.

Olberman sucked as a local sports reporter, sucked as an ESPN sports reporter and finally has found a way to have even lower ratings than he had as a local guy - become the angry, bitter mouthpiece for the MoveOn.Org radicals.

MAddow needed a microscope to see the ratings she received on Airhead America

Add these two to Chris "I'm getting shivers running up my leg thinking about Obama" Matthews and you have a trifecta of stupidity
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...and you have a trifecta of stupidity
rivaled only by the trio of smith, hannity, and o'reilly. who are such obvious tools of the right i won't bother coming up with nicknames (plus i'm just not all that good at it)

imagine how nice news might be if we could do away with such obviously blatant propagandists as the six already mentioned in this thread and actually find a journalist or two.

thank god we're not limited to cable news networks.

btw, how have you been? hope all is well with you and yours.
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I had to do a major spit take as Rachel Maddow and Bill Mahr carried on the following (slightly paraphrased) conversation:

RM: Why do you think McCain is doing so well in the polls?

BM: The people of the US are too stupid to be governed. They are like dogs, capable of understanding about 20 concepts

RM: The American people understand the concepts of "dumb" and "weak" and the Republicans say "We admit our leadership is dumb and we can handle that, we just can't handle weak and the Dems are weak." It seems as if the Republicans have made intelligence a weakness in the political realm.

BM: Yes, at both conventions we heard threats against Russia for their invasion of Georgia, a place I'm sure most Americans had never heard of or knew existed before this incident.


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btw, how have you been? hope all is well with you and yours.
Been okay, just really busy. Have been drooling at the thought of the posts I could have placed here with the current empty suit the Dems are running

By the way, who am I missing? I don't know what Smith you are talking about.
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Been okay, just really busy. Have been drooling at the thought of the posts I could have placed here with the current empty suit the Dems are running
by all means please do. believe it or not i actually miss our debates. not that there aren't some other fun folks to discuss issues with currently (there are) but i wouldn't mind having you, steve, sayow, jersey, kevin, and the rest back at least from time to time.

glad to hear all is well
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By the way, who am I missing? I don't know what Smith you are talking about.
I am sure that hork is referring to Shepard Smith that is also on the Fox News Channel but I guess I should not assume anything.

This is the Shepard Smith that can have more viewers than a lot more recognizable people such as Larry King, Obermann, Nancy Grace, Lou Dobbs and Chris Matthews.

CABLE RACE, TUES, SEPT 16

HANNITY/COLMES 3,136,000
O'REILLY 3,060,000
GRETA 2,908,000
HUME 1,977,000
COOPER 1,828,000
RACHEL MADDOW 1,801,000
SHEP SMITH 1,724,000
KING 1,710,000
OLBERMANN 1,635,000
GRACE 1,166,000
DOBBS 1,156,000
HARDBALL 821,000

So if my mathematical skills are working right. Fox News has five out of the top seven cable news shows in terms of people actually watching them.

No wonder Obama felt the need to hang out and talk to O' Reilly didn't Obama swear off Fox News, I don't even remember when that was, well I guess not when it became convenient for Obama to have a bunch of people watch what he is saying.
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