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Unread 14 Jan 2008, 09:13 AM
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Arrow golf divis?? missed ?

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Anyone have any of the divis? Bueller.......Bueller..............Ferris Bueller?
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Unread 15 Jan 2008, 09:01 PM
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Looks like the stats posted to profiles, but prices never changed. The Sunday buys are still in my port about 1% above where they were when purchased.
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EDIT: Nevermind - Guess we didn't have a divi report for monday.
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Looks like the stats posted to profiles, but prices never changed. The Sunday buys are still in my port about 1% above where they were when purchased.
So was there a fix or not?
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Hello?? Anyone home??

Things have gone way beyond silly around here the last few days.

Hard to believe one individual could cause this much discontent.
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golf divis? there WERE golf divis....there weren't many GOOD ones but when I saw this post I looked and saw a golfer at +7%ish...which is what the divi report had him at (top buy) and I moved on.....

sorry about there not being a list of divis.......only way I could get 'em now would be to go back and temporarily change dates on all those stats
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golf divis? there WERE golf divis....there weren't many GOOD ones but when I saw this post I looked and saw a golfer at +7%ish...which is what the divi report had him at (top buy) and I moved on.....

sorry about there not being a list of divis.......only way I could get 'em now would be to go back and temporarily change dates on all those stats
projections i didn't see any golfer divi with largest gainer at 2+%

[1 Chois 64 65 66 71 +1 -14 266 $954,000
2 Rory Sabbatini 66 69 66 68 -2 -11 269 $572,400
3 Jerry Kelly 67 67 69 67 -3 -10 270 $360,400
T4 Pat Perez 69 66 67 70 E -8 272 $208,688
T4 Steve Stricker 71 65 66 70 E -8 272 $208,688
T4 Steve Marino 65 67 68 72 +2 -8 272 $208,688
T4 Kevin Na 67 64 69 72 +2 -8 272 $208,688
T8 Tom Pernice Jr. 70 67 66 70 E -7 273 $159,000
T8 Troy Matteson 69 67 65 72 +2 -7 273 $159,000
T10 Parker McLachlin 73 66 65 70 E -6 274 $113,571
T10 Heath Slocum

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Orren is correct - there were golf divis, but they were weak. Anti-moo from 100k stocks killed divi for those stocks. I didn't capture divi Monday morning, but I did see the market listings shortly after 9am, and there were a handful of stocks in the 4-7% range.

It appears anti-moo on 100k share stocks, during the window, is still running at .22% per 100k shares, and that wipes out a lot, if not all, of a stocks divi.
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here's a look at today's anti-moo after the divi scripts ran and autosell kicked in. I believe 100k shares sold during AUTOSELL are creating -.22% anti-moo (or close to it), while manually sold 100k shares, sold after autosell, only result in a drop of -.04%. After seeing the anti-moo on Hossa, Dumont and Doan, I manually sold my 100k shares of each, and each transaction only caused an additional .04% drop in price.

Name / Shares sold / Anti-moo
Marian Hossa 1,835,596 -4.98%
J.P. Dumont 1,475,639 -4.17%
Shane Doan 1,404,137 -3.64%
Rod Brind'Amour 1,300,000 -3.64%
Alexei Kovalev 1,400,000 -3.94%
Milan Hejduk 900,000 -2.44%
Martin Gelinas 819,142 -2.20%
Jason Blake 800,293 -2.14%
Slava Kozlov 1,000,000 -2.74%
Andrew Brunette 630,000 -1.24%

Kozlov is a perfect example. His divi was 2.41%, and with 1M shares sold, the market listings had him at -.04%. When I first captured the anti-moo numbers this morning, he had 900k shares sold, and the market listings showed him with 0% gain. His 2.41% gain was completely offset by anti-moo from autosell sales of 900k shares (9 ports selling 100k shares each). 100k shares sales of Kozlov after autosell ran have only dinged the stock value by .04% each.
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dammit....I had Nick look at that, too.......and last night he/we weren't seeing an issue 'cause 100k sells appeared to be capped.

....but, looking at hosma now.....approx 2mil buys and 2 mil sells....but up 4%+ LESS than his divi............so something is different either with autosell or the window....

'course sellers are happy 'cause the buyback price is lower.....but holders are gettin' whacked like before still....
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Unread 16 Jan 2008, 12:19 PM
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why can't the moo be normal for all stocks including splitters? Turning down the moo negates the day trading effect that these changes were supposed to have... also, in the "real" stock market, do they ever say "we'll wait until a convenient time for you to buy or sell?" sometimes you do better, sometimes not so much. shouldn't there be an advantage if you can buy at various times? isn't it the same as someone buying a stock because the player just scored a goal in NHL? All IMHO of course.
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dammit....I had Nick look at that, too.......and last night he/we weren't seeing an issue 'cause 100k sells appeared to be capped.

....but, looking at hosma now.....approx 2mil buys and 2 mil sells....but up 4%+ LESS than his divi............so something is different either with autosell or the window....

'course sellers are happy 'cause the buyback price is lower.....but holders are gettin' whacked like before still....
and those of us that cannot be here to check all that are getting HAMMERED.....as I am.
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Orren is correct - there were golf divis, but they were weak. Anti-moo from 100k stocks killed divi for those stocks. I didn't capture divi Monday morning, but I did see the market listings shortly after 9am, and there were a handful of stocks in the 4-7% range.

It appears anti-moo on 100k share stocks, during the window, is still running at .22% per 100k shares, and that wipes out a lot, if not all, of a stocks divi.
You were absolutely correct. Without going into the details, the problem has been corrected. Please, ld, keep me posted. Also, I am sorry for not realizing that it was autosell that was the problem.

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