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4.11.11 NHL regular season ends Monday divis
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Find us on  for updates, including site issues. Also now on Reddit, not that I'm sure what we're doing there yet.Don't piss off old people- the older we get, the less life in prison is a deterrent. I'm pretty confident my last words will be 'well crap, that didn't work'. Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all. Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together. I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it. Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike? 
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11 Apr 2011, 10:56 AM
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 Thanks I totally missed Contreras  Side note though. Gomes didnt have a Stolen Base. I was at the game. Then watched again at home. He walked in the first. Next 2 at bats were a pop up and a strikeout 4th he hit the 2 run home run. 5th he singled in 9th but was stranded at 1st. So back to the first at bat. After walking in the first he did make it to 2nd on a throwing error as he moved up and a run scored. Believe ESPN play by play has it right. Also yahoo concurs. 1st inning - J. Gomes walked, B. Phillips scored, J. Votto to third, S. Rolen to second - E. Renteria hit sacrifice fly to right, J. Votto scored, S. Rolen to third - S. Rolen scored, J. Gomes to second on J. Miranda's throwing error - J. Bruce grounded out to first 3rd inning - J. Gomes popped out to second 4th inning - J. Gomes struck out looking 6th inning - J. Gomes homered to deep left, S. Rolen scored 9th inning - J. Gomes singled to right, J. Votto to second - J. Francisco hit for N. Masset - J. Francisco struck out swinging - J. Bruce struck out swinging
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11 Apr 2011, 10:59 AM
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Find us on for updates, including site issues. Also now on Reddit, not that I'm sure what we're doing there yet.Don't piss off old people- the older we get, the less life in prison is a deterrent. I'm pretty confident my last words will be 'well crap, that didn't work'. Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all. Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together. I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it. Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike?
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11 Apr 2011, 04:18 PM
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Well like I said I watched it live then on TV. Now again. while I type.
This is how it went down. After a sac fly runner scores from 3rd and runner moves to 3rd leaving Gomes on 1st. 1-2 count on Jay Bruce pitcher looks home and throws to first. THey have him picked off. Gomes floats in the middle and the 1st baseman Miranda looks home then throws over the 2nd baseman's head. Gomes reverses direction from the pickle and takes 2nd. So unless I got this wrong. You cant steal a bag when picked off and in a run down. Then a throwing error gets you the bag. But hey not questioning you. You just went with what was printed on this 1 site.
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11 Apr 2011, 05:41 PM
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sans the overthrow, if a guy is picked off yet still gains a base, he's credited with a steal...
and 'this 1 site' was mlb.com....which I don't use for stats, but we use as the 'tiebreaker' if there's question....just like we use nfl.com, nhl.com, and nba.com for those sports...
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Find us on for updates, including site issues. Also now on Reddit, not that I'm sure what we're doing there yet.Don't piss off old people- the older we get, the less life in prison is a deterrent. I'm pretty confident my last words will be 'well crap, that didn't work'. Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all. Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together. I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it. Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike?
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11 Apr 2011, 07:00 PM
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Yea like I said I dont know the rule. ESPN, CBS, MSN and Yahoo must not know the rule either. Just I thought when an error is committed no positive stats can occur. Either one or the either I thought. But I could be wrong.
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11 Apr 2011, 07:02 PM
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FYI I found this for MLB.com official scoring
10.07 Stolen Bases And Caught Stealing The official scorer shall credit a stolen base to a runner whenever the runner advances one base unaided by a hit, a putout, an error, a force-out, a fielder's choice, a passed ball, a wild pitch or a balk, subject to the following:
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11 Apr 2011, 07:07 PM
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Once again this is moot and just for discussion purposes. I accept the DIVI. Just not the ruling.
c) When a runner, attempting to steal, or after being picked off base, evades being put out in a run-down play and advances to the next base without the aid of an error, the official scorer shall credit the runner with a stolen base. If another runner also advances on the play, the official scorer shall credit both runners with stolen bases. If a runner advances while another runner, attempting to steal, evades being put out in a run-down play and returns safely, without the aid of an error, to the base he originally occupied, the official scorer shall credit a stolen base to the runner who advances. (f) When in the scorer's judgment a runner attempting to steal is safe because of a muffed throw, the official scorer shall not credit a stolen base. The official scorer shall credit an assist to the fielder who made the throw, charge an error to the fielder who muffed the throw and charge the runner with "caught stealing." (h) The official scorer shall charge a runner as "caught stealing" if such runner is put out, or would have been put out by errorless play, when such runner (1) tries to steal; (2) is picked off a base and tries to advance (any move toward the next base shall be considered an attempt to advance); or
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11 Apr 2011, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
SB - Joey Votto (1, 2nd base off Mickolio/Blanco), Jonny Gomes (2, 2nd base off Saunders/Blanco)...this info was there (CBS) last night and is STILL there...........
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11 Apr 2011, 11:01 PM
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these sports sites don't do their own stats...the bulk of them get their stats from Stats, Inc.....they buy real time feeds...those feeds are updated every few minutes...and come (believe it or not) from sources such as people like you and I who are paid on a per game basis to watch and log stats according to what they see.....so perhaps the scoring was originally one way and changed to another...and the site you saw carried one version of the scoring at the time you looked...
..the point still being, if there's a question, it's not what our feed says that counts, the 'arbitrator' is mlb.com for baseball... but you're reading the scoring incorrectly....if a guy isn't out on the play, he cannot be 'caught stealing'...if he advances a base, it's a stolen base........my ONLY question being how they would score the advance given there was an error...and, by mlb.com, the official scorer must have judged he'd advance the base with or without the bad throw
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Find us on for updates, including site issues. Also now on Reddit, not that I'm sure what we're doing there yet.Don't piss off old people- the older we get, the less life in prison is a deterrent. I'm pretty confident my last words will be 'well crap, that didn't work'. Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all. Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together. I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it. Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike?
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12 Apr 2011, 02:51 AM
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He was actually in the pickle and Miranda just threw it into left field then Gomes advanced. Like I said I am not arguing the decision or the divi. I just wanted to know the official ruling. Also look at (H) then (2). It reads that a runner shall be deemed caught stealing if he would have been put out on an errorless play. I dont think I am misreading it. But I put it out here to discuss in an open forum as I trust your opinions.
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