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Unread 13 Dec 2009, 09:55 AM
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...so many stories...don't care to speculate, but I understand Tiger will NOT be playing on the PGA tour when it starts?...Is this a self-imposed suspension???...How long???
Plans for his return seem over-hyped already!

I wonder what monetary value these 'slight' indescretions are going to cost him???...
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Unread 13 Dec 2009, 05:32 PM
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Tiger was NOT suspended..he took an indefinite, voluntary leave of absence. My own personal guess is that we might see him by the Masters.

There is no doubt that he screwed up....royally. While I agree with Charles Barkley (partially) about pro athletes not being role models for our children....they (the children) look up to and emulate these athletes whether they like it or not. Tiger's image is permanently stained and forever these stories will part of his legacy. Youngsters exposed to these events will be (as am I)disappointed, disillusioned and otherwise disgusted with their hero. He has done more for golf than any other human past or present.He has built a learning center..the likes of which we have never seen before. He spends more of his own money to support that endeavor than any I've heard of to date. The First Tee program all over the world has benefitted from Tiger. While I do not think those charities will suffer dollar-wise........they will suffer some in other ways. The tour purses have jumped 10fold since his appearance on tour and every single card carrying pro can and should thank him regularly for achieving that.

My first reaction (unlike those above that were willing to prosecute and sentence him before all the facts were out) was to feel for his family. I never believed that Tiger would be leaving his house in a hurry at 2:30 in the morning unless something serious was up. I believed (and do to this day) that he left after a bigtime fight with his wife(and who could blame her after reading the article that enquirer rag put out)....and he chose the high road and tried to get out instead of hitting back like all too many men do. Then the 15 min of fame seekers all jumped in....I'm not questioning uchitel or grubbs (even though I think the latter is a scumbag for putting personal business in the street. She, unlike uchitel is getting nothing for opening her larger than life mouth. (you can be sure uchitel got PAID for her discretion). The rest.....I want to see some serious proof if I'm to believe any of them. Either way....I really don't give a flying rat's azz about it. I do believe that personal non-criminal behaviour should remain personal. The media frenzy has been unlike anything I've seen in a very long time....a product of everyone's previous faith in Tiger's impeccable image and the insatiable need to feed on people's misfortunes.. He has some serious soul-searching and repair work to do...and if I were a betting man I'd bet that his marriage is probably over. I'm rooting for them to find a way to mend things but I'm not optimistic.

As far as the Tour and sponsors are concerned.......

IMHO...the Tour will survive but viewership will drop at least 50%...to the die hard core that watches golf no matter what (like me). Those viewers are the ones that sponsors ads are geared to and the fact remains that when Tiger IS playing the viewership jump is bonus to those advertisers. Those companies that sponsoir and pay Tiger have mostly all said that they will not use ads with Tiger in them until he returns. That, in itself is not a big deal as this is a very slow time for golf in general and IMO means little if anything.
Gatorade had already decided to drop Tigers formula BEFORE the big story broke, so any gossip that he's losing sponsors is hooey....it's simply not true. Everything is run by the almighty dollar and you can be sure that those sponsors are quite aware of that. IMHO those decisions will be made after he returns.

edit:
It turns out I was wrong about one of his sponsors....Accenture. I should have guessed they would be first as their entire ad campaign evolved around Tiger....with "integrity" being one of the prominent buzz words they used. Can't say I blame them either, given what's happened.
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I deliberately didn't start a thread on this in JS Today, instead leaving it to you guys........and sorta glad it never got started up there.

That said, there is no doubt that Tiger screwed up...and that's true of the night of the accident as well. Had more info been put out earlier, we can at least HOPE less wild speculation would have ensued. We've all heard the jokes, seen the doctored pictures, etc.

Celebraties deserve their privacy, certainly. But they also have to understand that the more they are in the public eye, the more successful they are, the less privacy they're going to have in this day and age. Still, I'm glad he's taking some time off....I hope he's in Sweden, away from much of the media, working things out.

But the hits keep on coming, too....now a doctor that had been giving Tiger some blood therapy after his surgery last year is under investigation for PEDs. You know how this goes- to some, Tiger will be guilty by association and noone will convince them otherwise. Truth doesn't matter, the damage to his image will still be that much more.
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Tiger was NOT suspended..he took an indefinite, voluntary leave of absence. My own personal guess is that we might see him by the Masters.

There is no doubt that he screwed up....royally. While I agree with Charles Barkley (partially) about pro athletes not being role models for our children....they (the children) look up to and emulate these athletes whether they like it or not. Tiger's image is permanently stained and forever these stories will part of his legacy. Youngsters exposed to these events will be (as am I)disappointed, disillusioned and otherwise disgusted with their hero. He has done more for golf than any other human past or present.He has built a learning center..the likes of which we have never seen before. He spends more of his own money to support that endeavor than any I've heard of to date. The First Tee program all over the world has benefitted from Tiger. While I do not think those charities will suffer dollar-wise........they will suffer some in other ways. The tour purses have jumped 10fold since his appearance on tour and every single card carrying pro can and should thank him regularly for achieving that.

My first reaction (unlike those above that were willing to prosecute and sentence him before all the facts were out) was to feel for his family. I never believed that Tiger would be leaving his house in a hurry at 2:30 in the morning unless something serious was up. I believed (and do to this day) that he left after a bigtime fight with his wife(and who could blame her after reading the article that enquirer rag put out)....and he chose the high road and tried to get out instead of hitting back like all too many men do. Then the 15 min of fame seekers all jumped in....I'm not questioning uchitel or grubbs (even though I think the latter is a scumbag for putting personal business in the street. She, unlike uchitel is getting nothing for opening her larger than life mouth. (you can be sure uchitel got PAID for her discretion). The rest.....I want to see some serious proof if I'm to believe any of them. Either way....I really don't give a flying rat's azz about it. I do believe that personal non-criminal behaviour should remain personal. The media frenzy has been unlike anything I've seen in a very long time....a product of everyone's previous faith in Tiger's impeccable image and the insatiable need to feed on people's misfortunes.. He has some serious soul-searching and repair work to do...and if I were a betting man I'd bet that his marriage is probably over. I'm rooting for them to find a way to mend things but I'm not optimistic.

As far as the Tour and sponsors are concerned.......

IMHO...the Tour will survive but viewership will drop at least 50%...to the die hard core that watches golf no matter what (like me). Those viewers are the ones that sponsors ads are geared to and the fact remains that when Tiger IS playing the viewership jump is bonus to those advertisers. Those companies that sponsoir and pay Tiger have mostly all said that they will not use ads with Tiger in them until he returns. That, in itself is not a big deal as this is a very slow time for golf in general and IMO means little if anything.
Gatorade had already decided to drop Tigers formula BEFORE the big story broke, so any gossip that he's losing sponsors is hooey....it's simply not true. Everything is run by the almighty dollar and you can be sure that those sponsors are quite aware of that. IMHO those decisions will be made after he returns.

edit:
It turns out I was wrong about one of his sponsors....Accenture. I should have guessed they would be first as their entire ad campaign evolved around Tiger....with "integrity" being one of the prominent buzz words they used. Can't say I blame them either, given what's happened.
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Yarrr! Shiver me timbers... ye have a wealth of knowledge and ye can only use the clap smiley for yer 10th post since Mar ought 7???

Ye've got to stop yer blabberin'..

Seriously, after all the mentoring I've given ye, you're still only in 116th place??????

Yer a sorry disappointment to this bucaneer, me bucko!

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Glad to see you "D".....ty

on another note......

Divorce is imminent....it appears Elin is filing soon.
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The Rev. Al Sharpton held a press conference last month to blast Tiger Woods for the lack of diversity among his mistresses. Sharpton claims that the lack of African-American women among Woods’ harem will have a negative affect on the black community, specifically young black girls.

“Why is it that a man who calls himself black can't bring himself to cheat on his wife with a black woman?” said Sharpton, speaking to a group of supporters in Harlem . “What does it say to young black girls everywhere when you pass them over? Shame on you, Tiger Woods. What would your daddy say?”

Sharpton, who has long championed taking black women as mistresses, said that today’s black athletes need to stop neglecting black women when it comes to extramarital affairs, and should follow the examples of positive black role models such as Jesse Jackson and Martin Luther King, Jr., both of whom cheated on their wives with black women. Sharpton also stressed that cheating with African-American women would help the black community financially by giving black girls the chance to sell their stories to tabloids and gossip magazines.

Added Sharpton, “I'm not asking you to not cheat on your wives, I'm just asking you to give back to your own community.”


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update.....

word has it that Elin has visited Tiger at his rehab clinic and MAYBE, just MAYBE they will be able to work things out.

My new guess (originally I figured we see him back on the course a coup[le weeks before the Masters - to get ready for the MAsters) and now I'm betting on the Match-play championship Feb 17th. BIG purse and he has historically owned these WGC events. We shall see.........
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