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Try reading the post I was replying to and you'll see, I hope, that I was only saying the same thing said to me but from my perspective. Why is it that when you want to say something from YOUR point of view, it's okay but when I try to say the same thing from MY point of view, you belittle it and call it jingoism (whatever the heck that is)?
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And other than the completely flawed argument that "not supporting the war is not supporting the troops" show me where I dont. Quote:
I must be doing something right. My liberal leaning friends think Im too conservative, and you think Im an extremist ultra liberal. But thanks for the good chuckle. That made me laugh more than when my friends were cutting on me (and vice versa) over many beers this past weekend And its my opinion that Bush and many of those in his administration is guilty of many things, and many of those things IMHO are worse than lying about oral sex (I know not new news to you). If you think that me having that opinion of him warrants that I must think that everything is his fault, than go ahead. No skin off my nose. But FWIW (and this is clearly my opinion) when I read you or other conservatives "opine" about Clinton the same thing runs in my head of what probably goes through your head about what I say of Dubya.
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When our military, and their efforts are of less value than another log at the Anti-W Rally, it goes over the line. The claim of supporting the troops rings hollow throughout. Sounds more like someone accused of racism claiming to having had a black friend in high school.
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OMG! Sean Penn is calling for President Bush to withdraw the troops! Quickly, Mr. President, withdraw ... WITHDRAW!
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Perhaps a little perspective is in order. I don't know the numbers, but let's say the US military has rotated a total of 250k men & women in and out of Iraq over the last four years. Of those 250k, "only" 3,200 have been killed (and over 23k wounded). Using these numbers, "only" 1.3% of the 250k troops deployed in Iraq have died, and "only" 9.2% of those deployed have been wounded. Overall, when combined, "only" 10.5% of the troops deployed have been killed or wounded while in Iraq. Now apply these percentages to the total US population of roughly 300 million... When 3,840,000 million Americans are killed and another 27,600,000 million are injured due to alcohol-related automobile accidents over a four year period, perhaps Murtha will introduce legislation to crack down on drunk driving. Surely it would be considered a crisis, right?
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Why aren't you 'fighting' for people who lose their lives to something they cannot control, and instead sit there and try to throw numbers in my face, attempting to make me feel guilty, when each and every man and women that enlists or goes throw ROTC knows the risks of joining? Thank God we have people brave enough to serve [Grandfather, Father, Sister, Uncle(s), Rich, Bill, other members here], and I'm sure most people employed don't want to go, but they know they have to and that there is a certain risk involved with taking the oath. Nick |
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Yes, thank God for the brave men and women that have served our country, and for those that serve today. They certainly deserve much better than this.
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Andrew, it doesn't matter. Especially considering that this is the oath:
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and that is what exactly? are you suggesting that opposition to policy is the same as opposition to the uniformed person? would you argue that i in my opposition to this war in any way shape or form have less respect and or gratitude toward those who don the uniform and those who have gone before them?
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Well, if you're taking the road of "This is all President Bush's fault!", then yes.
People still continue to enlist today; please, fire your comments back. Nick |
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i have no comments as you're logic fails me miserably. how does voicing opposition for bush equate with harboring ill-will against uniformed military personnel? if you could explain that leap in logic to me then i'll be more than happy to offer further comment. |
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