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And this is why Rusty makes the money...his "southern charm" ...
Prosecutor's wanted the judge to recuse himself from the case for calling the prosecutor and AP's lawyer, Rusty Harden, both "media w.h.o.r.e.s". The judge apologized and asked the prosecutor to file his papers. Rusty tells the judge, "I've got no problem with the remark because I've been called worse." |
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that would be complete bull if they did that...at least him saying it...if they were to find enough in his system to justify it would be one thing
it just seems like someone is pulling strings here...the timing of the original story, the shoddy reporting regarding charity stuff, now this.....
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I read the Star Tribune story the "source" of the story...it seemed like a legit story...mostly citing facts...They don't have any hard evidence AP was charging on a charity credit card, but through hearsay allude to it ... other than that, where is the "shoddy reporting" part?
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yeah, maybe shoddy is a stretch...for me, if I have reason to question some facts, I have reason to question all of 'em I guess. AP tweeted his side of things, but I've hardly seen that information even reposted let alone given any credence whatsoever.
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well....he 'could' have just given the wrong card. Whoops!
tainted forever. I'm disappointed.
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according to AP, there was no wrong card for him to give...he had no access to the charity's card
I don't know what to think anymore here. ALL the stuff that has been put out there, we don't know what's true, what's exaggerated, and what's just plain fiction. While I don't believe the best case scenario could be fully true anymore, it still could be that he's done nothing more wrong than spank a little too hard and been a little too promiscuous. Everything else that is out there CURRENTLY is conjecture, subjective, or not yet proven.
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The judge did impose a $4,000 fine, otherwise the early report is accurate. At first I didn't think Peterson had a chance to play in the NFL ever again...mainly because I thought he was going to fight the charges and I figured that it would take at least a year or two for that process to conclude. Now, he may realistically be on the field sooner rather than later. Not sure what backlash there will be if/when AP returns to the field, but I think most reasonable people won't have too much of a problem with it. |
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right...$4,000 fine,80 hours of community service, 2 years probation
to ensure people understood what probation means, apparently, they made a point of saying the case was deferred 2 years.....means the same thing..if AP screws up at all in the next 2 years, probation revoked and they could try him on the felony with no op to plea down As far as returning to the field, most are saying he should be treated like any other first time misdemeanor offender...but then for some reason say that's an automatic 6 games (it's normally 4 and as we all know too well Rice got 2) ....but any question about when he returns to the field also depends on how they deal with 'time served'. Some say that shouldn't matter, but from a purely football standpoint, not including prior games further unduly punishes the team and fans. If it's 6 games, he should be required to repay and/or donate game checks and there'll be issues if the league adds more games. He's missed 8 already. But...while he may not miss another game after they come to whatever decision, they could also take their time in coming to that decision.
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Well, there's also the public relations aspect to consider. If the NFL (or individual teams) think he is too toxic to put out on the field for fear of fan backlash or sponsor boycotting then they may just release him for someone else to sign and deal with the repercussions.
Child abuse (actual or perceived) is a hot button issue right now. Not unlike racism. Remember the public outcry and fear of backlash that drove the Los Angeles Clippers' owner to be banned from the NBA for his comments, even though they never even approached criminality, to my knowledge. I'm not saying the two incidents are identical, but the same principle that keeps one individual from participating in a sports league, fair or unfair, may also prevent another. If someone is deemed to be too "toxic" then they might just find themselves without a team.
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I don't disagree...and even tho he plays for my favorite team and prior to the charge was one of my favorite players, I understand he likely went too far in his disciplining. But we're also talking about a guy who was considered one of the nicest and hardest working guys in the league...and the decimation of his character publicly, to me, has been drastic overkill. Ray Lewis, for example, was widely thought to have been directly involved in 2 murders...when he plead to an obstruction of justice charge, he was heavily fined but not suspended a single game...and is now viewed as if he's some sort of hero, including a statue at his home stadium. Murder is always a 'hot button' issue.
The biggest problem in this case was the unlawful release of those photographs....and tho given to them by an officer, released by TMZ. We don't know if they may have been altered to appear worse than they really were, but those who think ANY physical discipline is overkill will NEVER view it any other way. Would they if they'd never seen those photos? On top of that, now people think he only got the deal he got because he's a celebrity...when many first time offenders may have gotten the same deal, but gotten it withOUT being tried in the court of public opinion and within a couple weeks rather than a few months.
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I think the outcry won't be as widespread and as vocal as the Ray Rice incident. The first video released, Rice dragging his unconscious girlfriend out of the elevator was only "bad enough" to get him the 2 game suspension. The second video, showing Rice punching her in the elevator was enough to end his career...why? Rice may have only gotten the 2 game suspension if the videos were released in the opposite order but the fact was one video was released, a punishment was determined by the NFL after doing its "fact finding". It was when the second video came out that had everyone questioning the NFL more than anything. The "outcry" in the Ray Rice incident was that the NFL was essentially turning a blind eye to one of their player's beating a woman. The NFL needs to make 100% sure that there is no more accusations, no more potential for AP to be associated with harming a child. If they can competently do that then the NFL should be able to prorate his suspension and even "say" it is an 8 game suspension, 2 more games than the minimum, to elaborate a point that the NFL won't support the harming of children in any scenario. That way they have set some precedent if needed in the future. I think if that is done, in a competent manner (knowing Roger Goodell and his past I am not so sure this step is even manageable anymore with his "team"), the backlash will be minimal. Part of the reason AP struck a deal was to keep the pictures from entering the public record and I think that then helped lower the "exposure" to those images...giving people fewer times to be angry. A person saw the Ray Rice first video a few times and then when the second video emerged, both videos were shown repeatedly on every show imaginable... Sidenote: If AP wants to continue to "smoke a little weed" he may want to do that only where it is permitted... |
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I know people may think my mindset is because AP is on my fav team, etc....but I find this decision by the NFL to be completely and totally over the top. Goodell JUST MADE the policy change that should have resulted in a 6 game suspension DURING the beginning of the AP situation....so are they thinking they're justified in treating him as if he was convicted of a felony?
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Find us on for updates, including site issues. Also now on Reddit, not that I'm sure what we're doing there yet. Don't piss off old people- the older we get, the less life in prison is a deterrent. I'm pretty confident my last words will be 'well crap, that didn't work'. Of all the things I've lost over the years, I think I miss my metabolism most of all. Nachos are just tacos that don't have their s_it together. I'm not adding this year to my age because I really didn't use it. Ever notice that extra fries and exercise sound a lot alike? |