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Unread 14 Jul 2007, 12:31 PM
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in prison, and rightfully so. Troy Ellerman was the fellow that leaked confidential grand jury testimony of several baseball players to a reporter in the BALCO steroids case. He committed a crime and is being punished, as he should be.

Meanwhile, the Bush administration purposefully and knowingly "leaked" (outed) a covert CIA agent to the media and not a single person has been charged, let alone convicted, for the crime that occured. In fact, when questioned about the outing of Valerie Plame earlier this week, bush dismissed the issue as "old news".

He said "It's run its course," he said. "Now we're going to move on."

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But the president appeared eager Thursday to put the entire case in the past. It was costly for his presidency, denting his image as someone who had pledged to restore integrity to the White House.

As it turned out, several administration officials revealed Plame's identity. White House political adviser Karl Rove and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage were the primary sources for a 2003 newspaper column outing Plame. Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer also admitted telling reporters about her. Libby was the only one charged in the matter and not for leaking.

"I've often thought about what would have happened had that person come forth and said, `I did it,'" Bush said, despite the fact that Armitage and perhaps the others did just that.

In the beginning stages of the case, Bush said, "I want to know the truth," and pledged to fire anyone found to have leaked. As the investigation wore on, he expressed more weariness than outrage, saying only that someone who "committed a crime" would be fired and calling the case "background noise" he had to ignore.

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in prison, and rightfully so. Troy Ellerman was the fellow that leaked confidential grand jury testimony of several baseball players to a reporter in the BALCO steroids case. He committed a crime and is being punished, as he should be.

Meanwhile, the Bush administration purposefully and knowingly "leaked" (outed) a covert CIA agent to the media and not a single person has been charged, let alone convicted, for the crime that occured.
Seems to me there was an investigation about the "leaking" of Val's name and the only thing that resulted from that was the prosecution of Scooter Libby while the self-admitted "leaker," Richard Armitage, has told how he was asked to NOT discuss his part in the "leak" by Fitzgerald. So the investigation either ignored the guy who "leaked" or there was no "leak."
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in prison, and rightfully so. Troy Ellerman was the fellow that leaked confidential grand jury testimony of several baseball players to a reporter in the BALCO steroids case. He committed a crime and is being punished, as he should be.

Meanwhile, the Bush administration purposefully and knowingly "leaked" (outed) a covert CIA agent to the media and not a single person has been charged, let alone convicted, for the crime that occured. In fact, when questioned about the outing of Valerie Plame earlier this week, bush dismissed the issue as "old news".

He said "It's run its course," he said. "Now we're going to move on."
you're logic is seriously flawed. you're assuming that the law applies to this regime. as they've demonstrated time and again they are far above the law and aren't even beholden to that silly little "goddamn piece of paper"

shoot even treason and high crimes (outing an agent qualifies as both under federal statute) apparently are beneath them. which is a good thing given both are punishable by death.
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in prison, and rightfully so. Troy Ellerman was the fellow that leaked confidential grand jury testimony of several baseball players to a reporter in the BALCO steroids case. He committed a crime and is being punished, as he should be.

Meanwhile, the Bush administration purposefully and knowingly "leaked" (outed) a covert CIA agent to the media and not a single person has been charged, let alone convicted, for the crime that occured.
Seems to me there was an investigation about the "leaking" of Val's name and the only thing that resulted from that was the prosecution of Scooter Libby while the self-admitted "leaker," Richard Armitage, has told how he was asked to NOT discuss his part in the "leak" by Fitzgerald. So the investigation either ignored the guy who "leaked" or there was no "leak."
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