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Unread 16 Apr 2008, 09:15 AM
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Default Why republicans including McCain will lose in early November.

I have thought of this for a while now.

There will be some republican scandals right?
The democrat will be able to outspend Senator McCain by a wide margin.
Senator McCain is not going to be able to convince republicans that they should vote for him no matter how hard he tries.
The democrat base will be voting for whomever there nominee is no matter what.
The absolutely brilliant reasons the democrat presidential nominee will give to vote for them.

I can't decide if my second or third reason is more important and they may well be equally important but I will go with the second one being more important right now. Part of the reason is that Obama is leading Mrs. Clinton in the democrat race by many different factors is partly because he able to spend more money than Mrs. Clinton plain and simple.

Now there has to be some other reasons as well?
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The way more than a majority of people so want to get of Iraq not matter what right?
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of course there are a group of us who simply want to return this nation to her founding ideals and who recognize there are issues that exist here at home we can't cover up simply by accusing the next guy of posing some threat real or (as in the case of iraq) fabricated.
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How quickly we Americans are to forget. You do realize that the planning for the attacks of 9/11 were going on during President Clintons term and that he was warned of the potential but choose to ignore it. How quickly we forget......
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How quickly we Americans are to forget. You do realize that the planning for the attacks of 9/11 were going on during President Clintons term and that he was warned of the potential but choose to ignore it. How quickly we forget......
which has what exactly to do with iraq?

and if we want to talk about forgetting, let's talk about remembering how and who armed those responsible for the attacks you refer too. here's a hint, he resided in a big white house in the 80's and he wasn't from Baghdad.
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of course there are a group of us who simply want to return this nation to her founding ideals....
And this will only happen when a democrat is elected president early this November right?
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And this will only happen when a democrat is elected president early this November right?
can't guarantee that, but we definitely know keeping the things with the party that currently controls the executive won't change anything. over the past 7 yrs they've shown they have no respect, regard, or deference to American ideology and/or values. (see my previous post for examples)
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The people want Washington to change. Democrats are going to change Washington no matter what. Just like they have since early January of last year. And if democrats really get the change they want watch out.
Democrats have a solution to any problem there is.
Republicans are incapable of feeling the people's pain when it comes to economic issues.
Senator McCain is going to keep us in Iraq indefinitely. So are Obama and Mrs. Clinton as well because we have a real problem if they don't at least plan to some degree how we are even going to get out of Iraq in the first place.
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Democrats have a solution to any problem there is.
that's clearly not true, if it were then we'd already have seen a change in personnel at the oval office
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that's clearly not true, if it were then we'd already have seen a change in personnel at the oval office
This would require at least 67 senators to agree right?

What kinds of legislation have we gotten since early January of 2007 with this much support?

I think that changing Washington just for the sake of change is just as important as what the congress has been doing for how many years now?

And we must also realize that come January 20th of next year there will be change no matter who the next president is.
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which has what exactly to do with iraq?

You are kidding right? Or are you suggesting that if we left them to do as they will there would not have been another attack on the U.S.A.?

Let's not mention what would happen to 99.9% of Americans if we had been caught with our you know what in the mouth of an employee and now he's out there telling us who we should vote for.
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You are kidding right? Or are you suggesting that if we left them to do as they will there would not have been another attack on the U.S.A.?

Let's not mention what would happen to 99.9% of Americans if we had been caught with our you know what in the mouth of an employee and now he's out there telling us who we should vote for.
i'm not suggesting anything. i'm asking what iraq had to do with 9-11. by their own admission the federal government (minus the liars in the white house), the United States' military, and various US intelligence agencies have all confirmed that there was no connection between Iraq and al queda prior to the US invasion.

So again I'm asking you what one has to do with the other. Given we know there was no pre-existing validity to those lies.
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Other big reasons why democrats will win early this November.
What issues are the most important to the people at this moment in time?
The economy, Iraq, and health care.

Now as we all know Iraq has absolutely nothing to do with the war on terror but should we be concerned about the war on terror or not?
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Senator's McCain's wife is stinking, filthy, rich wealth is estimated to be $109,000,000.

It appears to me that a beer distributorship can make one pretty wealthy.

How did Ms. Ketchup's husband do in the 2004 presidential race?

He lost to the worst president in recent memory. We don't have to go to far back though the guy that was last president on January 20, 1989 was a horrible president as well.

Doesn't Senator McCain have a form a cancer that could come back at any time?

Wasn't Senator McCain born in 1936 which is a really long time ago for younger voters.

I seem to remember that Senator McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone which is not in the U.S. the last time I checked.
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Senator McCain has a terrible temper and gets downright angry at times.

A good example of this was when he was on a plane and a reporter asked the same question about him having at least a conversation with Senator Kerry's about being his running mate in 2004. I am very surprised that Senator McCain used such restraint because Senator McCain very much looked like he wanted to slug the reporter and Senator McCain was also very agitated.
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Reason: I wanted to give an accurate description of what Senator McCain's temper is really like.
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