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Unread 10 Dec 2011, 08:03 PM
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Unread 10 Dec 2011, 08:29 PM
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the jury needs much more........
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hate to say it....but...the jury may need more, but the p test doesn't
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Oh come on. We have a baseball player denying he intentionally used them or something is messed up. We've never heard this before. lol Another cheater.
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.....Another cheater.
I not ready to add him to the list of 'unworthies' yet.....
this juror needs more too.
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we don't even know what he tested positive FOR...so this ain't as cut and dried as 'he tested positive, he's guilty'
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we don't even know what he tested positive FOR...so this ain't as cut and dried as 'he tested positive, he's guilty'
ESPN cited two sources Saturday in first reporting the result, saying the Milwaukee Brewers slugger tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, adding that a later test by the World Anti-Doping Agency lab in Montreal determined the testosterone was synthetic.
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There was once a day in the beginning of the PED problems that I too believed that there was no way that player X would have knowingly done what he was accussed of. Hhhmmmm.... Many years later the names change but i know they cheated and it will be proven as so. What a shame.
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ESPN cited two sources Saturday in first reporting the result, saying the Milwaukee Brewers slugger tested positive for elevated levels of testosterone, adding that a later test by the World Anti-Doping Agency lab in Montreal determined the testosterone was synthetic.
But then he will take the Bonds approach and say that he had no idea that synthentic testosterone was in whatever he took and of course some will believe him. I went through this same wait and see approach when it came to Bonds and Clemons.
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There has yet to be one athlete who has tested positive for PED's that has denied it and has been vilified.

I use to think the players deserved the benefit of the doubt...not anymore. Once a positive test has been reached, usually a second sample was also done and the tests independently verified so that the conclusion has little doubt and wiggle room for the athlete that tested positive.

Whether or not you want to believe that the players are "knowingly" taking steroids or not - whether they say they had tainted supplements, food, water, etc... - that can be your prerogative, but the most likely scenario is that these guys know exactly what they are doing and knowingly trying to cheat.
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The 2-1 ruling, from a three-member special panel that first convened last week in New York, spares Braun a suspension that might have covered as many as 50 games, preserves his reputation and positions him to man left field for the Brewers on Opening Day as the team begins its defense of the National League Central crown.
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Sorry...

I'm not buying it...

I would like to have seen the hearing and testimony...are there transcripts available or is this all a closed door affair?

Bonds never tested positive either...

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Just as I thought...

He got away with cheating...get a high priced DUI like lawyer and they'll never dispute the results of the test...but everything before, during and after. OJ defense at it's finest. Don't dispute the evidence but rather, put the procedure and the entire system on trial.

The fix is/was in, for sure, I'm just wondering at how much of a coincidence the first player ever to get off on a technicality happens to play for the commissioner's team and is the reigning MVP? So my guess is Selig is behind the nefarious activities...but the other owners won't have any problems with it because they want steroids in the game just as badly as the players do.

MLBaseball, again, does it's best to keep it's image tied with steroids... a complete sham.

If we want to finally score a "victory" for the players, this is as close as they will ever get...but keep in mind, the player at no time disputed the test or the results of the test...he got off because someone left the samples on their desk for 2 days. No proof that the samples were tampered with, no proof that the sample wasn't Ryan Braun's. Pay off 2 of 3 arbitrator's and you got yourself a win because no one with an ounce of common sense would have agreed with the defense's case.

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