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Kudos to you Oregon
kudos to orgeon for, to paraprhase their esteemed Governor, transforming their state from one of exclusion to one of complete inclusion.
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10 May 2007, 11:15 AM
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 Down the drain do our values go.The only thing I semi-agree with is the hate law addition. Then again, are there laws to protect sports fans? Seems absurb that a law needs to be made, when you really don't hear much about hate crimes against gays anymore. Nick
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10 May 2007, 11:46 AM
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10 May 2007, 12:49 PM
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Three quick questions.
What are these benefits the story is refering to? How much is the estimated cost of these benefits? Does a state have a right to make laws?
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10 May 2007, 01:13 PM
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 As for specific rights they include: Social Security pension survivor benefits renewal and termination rights to spouse's copyrights on death of spouse continued water rights of spouse in some circumstances payment of wages and workers compensation benefits after worker death making, revoking, and objecting to post-mortem anatomical gifts employment assistance and transitional services for spouses of members being separated from military service; continued commissary privileges sponsor husband/wife for immigration benefits Supplemental Security Income disability payments for federal employees medicaid income tax deductions, credits, rates exemption, and estimates joint filing of bankruptcy permitted next-of-kin status for emergency medical decisions or filing wrongful death claims domestic violence intervention access to "family only" services, such as reduced rate memberships to clubs & organizations or residency in certain neighborhoods Preferential hiring for spouses of veterans in government jobs Tax-free transfer of property between spouses (including on death) and exemption from "due-on-sale" clauses. Special consideration to spouses of citizens and resident aliens Threats against spouses of various federal employees is a federal crime Court notice of probate proceedings Regulation of condominium sales to owner-occupants exemption Funeral and bereavement leave Joint tax filing Insurance licenses, coverage, eligibility, and benefits organization of mutual benefits society Making spousal medical decisions Spousal non-resident tuition deferential waiver Permission to make funeral arrangements for a deceased spouse, including burial or cremation Right of survivorship of custodial trust Right to enter into prenuptial agreement Right to inheritance of property Spousal privilege and confidential marriage communications
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10 May 2007, 02:26 PM
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10 May 2007, 02:38 PM
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2004, hate crime distribution:
Link Here Illegal to hate based on race, yet 53.8% of the crimes reported in the survey were related to race. Maybe we should make a law .... oh wait, there already is one. Making a law isn't going to end hate; educating will. And just like people use the excuse of "you're born gay", I'm going to use the excuse of "you're born with hate". You won't ever stop hate crimes, but educating people will help. Making it illegal will do very little to the number of reported crimes. What a waste of money and time passing this bill. Now, do I support homosexuallity? No, but I'm not going to tie a homosexual to the back of my car and drag them across a gravel road. Why? Because I was taught that rule number six of ten says "You shall not murder". Nick
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10 May 2007, 02:41 PM
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might i suggest however that you do a quick recheck on your US history. pay close attention to the colonial period and note the real reasons for the establishment of the colonies. for example, the colony of Virginia was founded soley for economic development religion had no bearing on its founding. Massachuesettes to escape religious persecution. or in other words the beliefs of the majority that were forced upon others. as were maryland, rhode island, pennsylvannia, and connecticut. imagine how those founders would feel if they saw the travesty that has evolved from their ideal of religious freedom. both of the carolinas were founded as proprietary colonies for the sole purpose of economic development. religion was not an issue. georgia was established for two reasos. first to offer the criminal element filling English prisons a second chance at rehabilitation and second to protect the norther territories from the spainyards in the south (i.e., Florida) New Hampshire was a fishing post. New York was a ductch trading colony bought by the British and used as a seaport to provide commercial access to the new continent. New Jersey was issued as a land grant to cateret by the duke of york soley out of friendship and loyalty again no religious undertones at all. so as you can see from this very abridge version of US colonial history, of the 13 original colonies, 5 were founded based on religion. and without exception, all of those five were founded to escape religious persecution from the majority who (as is still the case) believe their way is the only way and thus should be shoved down the throats of all even those who choose not to suscribe.
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10 May 2007, 02:44 PM
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second, do you support the death penalty? and if so why?
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10 May 2007, 02:49 PM
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First of all, I know where you're going with this.
If a person can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they took the life of another person of purpose, then yes. [self-defense aside] The one that comes to my mind is Andrea Yates. The woman drowned five children in a bathtub. If she's crazy, this world will still be better off without her. Another interesting tid-bit: The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75. Source: Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA via this link. Proof that homosexuality is bad for the health. Nick
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10 May 2007, 03:05 PM
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i was simply going to ask you to offer me some evidence that violent crime has indeed diminished as a result of capital punishment. in fact it hasn't so my question would then be.... isn't it "a waste of money and time" passing such legislation? Quote:
what about those who eat red meat? play contact sports? work in dangerous jobs (e.g., firefighters, police officers, fishermen, etc)? after all their life expectancies are far shorter than the average person. and since it's clear their lifestyles are dangerous why not simply strip them of all their rights. see the flaw in your logic? or at least the complete irrelevance?
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10 May 2007, 04:27 PM
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Sorry, let me fix this:
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10 May 2007, 10:53 PM
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Also:
If this is the trending pattern, why not extend these "rights" to non-married steady heterosexual couples? Hell, why even have that thing called "marriage"? Nick
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20 May 2007, 12:32 AM
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we can now add Sean William Kennedy to the above list
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