Santana && Bedard Deals - Soon?

[ocho cinco]

Well, we are still waiting on the Bedard trade to go through.... Seattle will probably really over pay for him....

FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal believes the Orioles may be upset enough about Adam Jones' comments on the deal to call off the Erik Bedard trade or at least seek additional compensation.

Yeah, there's good reason the Orioles remain in the running for the title of worst run organization in baseball. Either the deal is good enough or it isn't. Who cares if Jones admitted 12 hours ahead of time that he was going to Baltimore for a physical? If Peter Angelos kills the deal as is -- it's believed to currently be a five-for-one including Jones, George Sherrill, Chris Tillman, Adam Butler and Kam Mickolio -- the Mariners should simply move on. Rosenthal believes the Orioles may now be holding out for Carlos Triunfel, who should be untouchable. Jan. 29 - 3:27 am et

Or, they may call it off... Who knows... We will soon enough.

And of course Santana Sweepstakes... They are saying he could be dealt today (Tuesday 1.29.08)

Buster Olney of ESPN reports that "executives involved in the Johan Santana trade talks expect the Minnesota Twins to make their decision soon, perhaps as early as Tuesday."

Call us skeptical after months of non-news, but even if the Twins make a decision soon everyone will still have to wait for Santana to negotiate a long-term contract extension. If a deal is indeed imminent, that suggests the Mets could be the front-runners. Jan. 29 - 11:02 am et

[parrotheadduff]

Santana to the Mets http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3220894.

Great news for the World Champion Boston Red Sox. They get to keep their best prospects and the Yankees don't get Santana.

[SiteWolf]

I knew a trade prolly HAD to happen......especially after the money Morneau and Cuddyer got......

......and I'd have to say...I'm glad that IF he had to be traded, it was to the NL...and especially not the AL East

Mets fans should be rejoicing....a bit of trivia you may NOT know is....Johan is actually pretty good at the plate as well.....

That said.....I sure hope Twins' scouting sees something others don't....because talent wise, this deal doesn't appear all that great from the Twins' side....not when you're giving up someone like Johan.

[itsanewday]

PLEASE EXCUSE MY HAPPY DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[StormJr]

----ty deal for the twins. makes me want to puke. In december we could have had a 2nd starter and a center fielder from the yanks...but no, we are stubborn and hold out to get....4 non name minor leaguers.

Mark my words. Santana will make a run at 30 wins this year.

[h20guy]

Originally Posted by itsanewday

PLEASE EXCUSE MY HAPPY DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but wasn't last year supposed to be the Mets "year"? I mean...yeah, Johan is a great pitcher, but Colorado still looks good, the Dodgers should be back at full strength, Arizona will still probably be strong, don't get too excited just yet.

[SiteWolf]

Originally Posted by StormJr

----ty deal for the twins. makes me want to puke. In december we could have had a 2nd starter and a center fielder from the yanks...but no, we are stubborn and hold out to get....4 non name minor leaguers.

Mark my words. Santana will make a run at 30 wins this year.

the more I look at this trade the less I like it from the Twins' standpoint...

what do they want with 3 pitchers who will never be studs when they got dozens of middle/bottom of the rotation prospects already? other than that all they get is a potential light hitting CF to replace Torii with?



And Errol...you better plan to take in a few games at Shea....'cause you've not enjoyed a baseball game until you've watched Johan pitch for your team. There is absolutely NOTHING negative you can say about him....he's all smiles all the time and the consummate pro on the field.....plus the guy'll prolly outhit most of the team percentage wise.

[P562045]

Didn't all this start last July when the Twins were not willing to get some help at the trading deadline and Johan openly talked about his displeasure with the Twins?

Sounds like the Twins waited a little to long to make a deal.

Yankees deal. Melky Cabrera and Phillip Hughes.

Now it appears that the Twins will end up with.

Humber, a 25-year-old right-hander, has made one start and four relief appearances for the Mets during the past two years, and went 11-9 with a 4.27 ERA last season for Triple-A New Orleans. The 22-year-old Gomez batted .232 in 125 at-bats with New York last year and .275 with 19 steals in the minors.

Guerra, who turns 19 in April, was 2-6 with a 4.01 ERA at Class A St. Lucie, and Mulvey, who will be 23 in May, was 12-10 with a 3.20 ERA in 26 starts at Double-A Binghamton and one at New Orleans.



I would have gone with the Yankee deal and not the Mets deal.

The main reason is isn't Johan one of the better pitchers in baseball?

One other little part of the story from my ESPN article.

With Santana gone, there is a big opening in the Twins' rotation. Francisco Liriano is on track to return after missing last season following elbow surgery, but Carlos Silva signed with Seattle as a free agent, leaving youngsters Scott Baker, Boof Bonser and Kevin Slowey as the starters with the most experience.

Espn Article

And don't think for a second the Twins will get a pitcher easily to replace Johan.

Almost all teams are starved for pitching so it is not easy to get pitchers in a trade and also I don't think the Twins will be throwing a lot of money towards a free agent pitcher because of salary constraints.

It appears to me now that it is going to suck to be a Twins fan this year. Maybe you can take get some support from Marlins fans. This is contingent on their actually being Marlins fans though I guess. I always thought it was not such a smart idea to have a baseball team in Florida because there is so much to do in Florida like visiting Mickey or a beach that people would spend their money elsewhere besides going to a
stadium that baseball is played in when the stadium is geared towards playing football.

Speaking of stadiums when is the Twins new ballpark supposed to open up?

[itsanewday]

Originally Posted by SiteWolf

And Errol...you better plan to take in a few games at Shea....'cause you've not enjoyed a baseball game until you've watched Johan pitch for your team. There is absolutely NOTHING negative you can say about him....he's all smiles all the time and the consummate pro on the field.....plus the guy'll prolly outhit most of the team percentage wise.

Imagine 3 20 game winners, plus a closer like Billy. Oh my how scary it will be

Let me introduce you to half of the 2008 National League All Star Team!!!

Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Reyes
Castillo
Martinez
Santana
Wagner

Yes there will be plenty of trips to Maimi to see them play the Marlins.

[hork]

Originally Posted by itsanewday

Imagine 3 20 game winners, plus a closer like Billy. Oh my how scary it will be

Let me introduce you to half of the 2008 National League All Star Team!!!

Beltran
Wright
Delgado
Reyes
Castillo
Martinez
Santana
Wagner

Yes there will be plenty of trips to Maimi to see them play the Marlins.

unfortunately though, they still have to actually win. given they haven't done that in decades, i'll not be holding my breath

[itsanewday]

Originally Posted by hork

unfortunately though, they still have to actually win. given they haven't done that in decades, i'll not be holding my breath

Spoken like a true Mets fan.... wait a minute here

[sonicwave]

I just hope the mets will beat up on the phils who will beat up on the braves who will beat up on the mets, leaving the fins and nats to storm into the playoffs, and therefore giving the NL West a hypothetically easier time in october.

[parrotheadduff]

Originally Posted by itsanewday

Imagine 3 20 game winners, plus a closer like Billy.
.

They'll be lucky to have 1 20 game winner. The double switches in the NL make it much harder to win 20.

[itsanewday]

Originally Posted by sonicwave

I just hope the mets will beat up on the phils who will beat up on the braves who will beat up on the mets, leaving the fins and nats to storm into the playoffs, and therefore giving the NL West a hypothetically easier time in october.

That would be like the Heat making a comeback this year to make the playoffs or something. I would say the Mets being World Series champions in 86 was less of a shocker then the above would be.

[StormJr]

Originally Posted by parrotheadduff

They'll be lucky to have 1 20 game winner. The double switches in the NL make it much harder to win 20.

Santana will EASILY reach 20 wins and make a run at 30. He's on the "senior circuit" now....and he's 28. Sheesh. Even Oliver Perez had a good year last year and he sucks.