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Unread 09 May 2008, 09:47 PM
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Default 23% of Indiana Republicans vote against McCain

Interesting, to say the least. Although he's been the presumptive nominee for what seems like forever, he still can't convince the core republican conservative base that he's their man. At least not the ones that were too busy voting for Hillary that is. Imagine that, a staunch right wing conservative voting for Hillary Clinton (mega dittos! - lol).


Candidate Votes Vote %

McCain 319,610 77%
Huckabee 41,164 10%
Paul 31,628 8%
Romney 19,546 5%






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Unread 09 May 2008, 11:48 PM
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I'll never be confused as a Republican or a conservative but....

As someone who's done it many times in the past, there's always people who will vote for someone who you know wont win, but will still vote for either cause 1) that person is still the person who you think is best qualified for office 2) protest vote 3) know the person personally 4) some other reason. And it's no secret many conservatives have their reservations about McCain.

Ive seen it here and in other places, but I dont think this is necessarily a bad omen when it comes to McCain and conservatives come November. Back in 2000 McCain backers said they wouldnt vote for Bush, but when push came to shove they still did for the most part, and Im sure history will repeat for the most part on that front. And if it doesnt, will that'll be a REALLY bad sign for the Republicans, like worst case scenario kind of stuff (well when it comes to elections).

I think the more sad number was Ron Paul getting fewer votes than someone who's long ago dropped out (it probably didnt help when he said he thinks Obama is better than McCain with foreign policy).

As for Hillary, will Rush said after Indiana/NC that Operation Chaos will be winding down and that it's now time to go after a "weaker" Obama.
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I am not sure if it is even true, but I thought I heard/read somewhere about a movement for Republicans to vote for Hillary, just to keep her in the race.

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I am not sure if it is even true, but I thought I heard/read somewhere about a movement for Republicans to vote for Hillary, just to keep her in the race.

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Exactly, which is why I made the reference to Limpaugh. Without the "Chaos" vote, Hillary loses Indiana by 50k+ votes. It's pretty pathetic when the right wing nut-jobs (the 25%-ers that still love Bush) don't have anything better to do than to vote in the democratic primary for someone they absolutely hate. It's laughable.
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Exactly, which is why I made the reference to Limpaugh. Without the "Chaos" vote, Hillary loses Indiana by 50k+ votes. It's pretty pathetic when the right wing nut-jobs (the 25%-ers that still love Bush) don't have anything better to do than to vote in the democratic primary for someone they absolutely hate. It's laughable.
Perhaps. However, with the way that Bush is viewed by many, it is a smart move strategically.

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Exactly, which is why I made the reference to Limpaugh. Without the "Chaos" vote, Hillary loses Indiana by 50k+ votes. It's pretty pathetic when the right wing nut-jobs (the 25%-ers that still love Bush) don't have anything better to do than to vote in the democratic primary for someone they absolutely hate. It's laughable.
Because they went and voted for the person that they feel poses the lesser challenge for their candidate they are now "right wing nut-jobs"?
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While Republicans made up 11 percent of the primary voters, Clinton won only 52 percent and 58 percent of Republicans said that Obama was more likely to defeat John McCain.

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Now wait that is very arrogant of that radio guy.

He knows all to well that neither one of the two democrat presidential candidates are going to be getting 2025 delegates to the convention before Puerto Rico I believe which is the last contest.

So this contest is actually going on longer not because of some famous fat pig of a radio host but the convoluted rules of the democrat primaries and caucuses that says the actual delegates are to be rewarded not by winner takes all like most republican contests but a proportion of delegates will go to each of the however many democrats got a certain percentage of actual votes in the various contests so far.

I seem to remember that even former Senator Edwards has a few pledged delegates as well.

My bad I did not think of this earlier.

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I wonder what would happen if I called them socialist, liberal, left wing nut jobs?

Oh wait I am being just a little redundant there.

I am fully aware that they hate the term liberal.
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I am fully aware that they hate the term liberal.
personally i prefer the term liberal. i think it's wrong to assume all those who stand against the current republican leadership are democrats, especially since i know this not to be the case. so liberal is just fine with me.
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i think it's wrong to assume all those who stand against the current republican leadership are democrats
I am not sure the crossover vote the Dem's are counting on will actually materialize.

What I really look forward to is the debates between McCain and the DNC nominee. We will be able to make educated choices, not choices based on the media or internet postings.

If he wins the primary, it will be very, very interesting to see how Obama stacks up. Fact of the matter is he hasn't been the best under fire.
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