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Unread 10 Sep 2008, 01:19 PM
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Default You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig - Barack Hussein Obama

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama's comments that "you can put lipstick on a pig" were "offensive and disgraceful", his rival John McCain's campaign said.

Mr Obama's reference to an earlier joke by Mr McCain's running mate Sarah Palin came as he intensified his criticism of the Republican ticket, challenged the notion they offered change and said a McCain presidency would be like four more years of President George Bush.

Mrs Palin compared herself with a "pit bull in lipstick" during her high-profile acceptance speech at her party's national convention last week.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to an outbreak of laughter, shouts and raucous applause from an audience in Virginia.

"It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."


In a new attack advert called "Lipstick", the McCain-Palin campaign said Mr Obama was only "ready to smear", not lead.

A McCain campaign spokesman called Mr Obama's comments "offensive and disgraceful".

Jane Swift, chairwoman of the newly-formed Palin Truth Squad, said: "It's clear to me - as I'm sure it will be to fair-minded Republicans, Democrats and independents across the country - that Senator Obama owes Governor Palin an apology."

Mr Obama's campaign said he was not referring to Mrs Palin and said the Republican camp was engaging in a "pathetic attempt to play the gender card".

The spokesman also noted that Mr McCain once used the same phrase to describe Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan.

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Not only he is being sexist, but he is being ageist. The comments are way out of line and uncalled for.

If McCain or Palin would of made a comment along the lines of calling him a 'boy' or eating watermelon or chicken it would of been run into the ground and McCain would of been eaten alive from the press and Obama. But, its okay if the chosen one, god him self speaks these things... Its 'ok'.
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no actually it's not ok. it was uncalled for and he should be called out on it. especially after we heard about his desire to run on issues and agenda not on politics of attack and mudslinging.
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It seems like the more things change in the political arena the more they stay the same.
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Funny how partisanship works.

When McCain said that a year ago in regards to Hilary, no uproar from the right. Now uproar from people who have suddenly found political correctness when it favors their candidate.

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It’s an old expression, and I’m going to have to cut Obama some slack on that one. I do not think he was referring to Sarah Palin; he didn’t reference her. If you take the two soundbites together, it may sound like it. But I’ve been a guy at the podium many times, and you say something that’s maybe a part of an old joke and then somebody ties it in. So, I’m going to have to cut him slack
That would be on Mike Huckabee. No wonder he didnt win the nomination, how dare he call a spade a spade!
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Funny how partisanship works.

When McCain said that a year ago in regards to Hilary, no uproar from the right. Now uproar from people who have suddenly found political correctness when it favors their candidate.
Yes, he did say that a year ago... But if I recall correctly, he was talking about her HEALTH plan... Not Hilary directly. There is a bit of difference.

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It’s an old expression, and I’m going to have to cut Obama some slack on that one. I do not think he was referring to Sarah Palin; he didn’t reference her. If you take the two soundbites together, it may sound like it. But I’ve been a guy at the podium many times, and you say something that’s maybe a part of an old joke and then somebody ties it in. So, I’m going to have to cut him slack
Barack Hussein Obama isn't a fool... There is a reason why he has a law degree from Harvard. He is a smart man...

He told his people... Watch this... I have something for Palin that I can say... Be an --- about it, and get away with it because I can always fall back on... Its an old expression... And in no way did it deal with her...

It was just to perfect for him and he knew he could get away with it...
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Regardless of it's innocence or not it was a stupid thing to say. Why would Obama give female voters more reason to support the McCain/Palin ticket?
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Yes, he did say that a year ago... But if I recall correctly, he was talking about her HEALTH plan... Not Hilary directly. There is a bit of difference.
It did not seem like he referenced her directly to me. People hear what they want to hear.

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Barack Hussein Obama isn't a fool...
It's amusing when people use his middle name like it is going to throw up some flag related to the terrorist and make them not vote for him.

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He told his people... Watch this... I have something for Palin that I can say... Be an --- about it, and get away with it because I can always fall back on... Its an old expression... And in no way did it deal with her...
And you were in his pocket when this conversation went down?

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It was just to perfect for him and he knew he could get away with it...
They all try and push the edge of where they can and can't go.

Personally I would never vote for either of these candidates. Neither one has talked about what they are going to do about real problems such as illegal immigration and outsourcing of US jobs overseas.

All they do is prance around making the statements they think Americans want to hear and when elected they will do nothing to really help the country.

Obama has not done anything in his current job to make me feel he is going to do great things for the country to make him worthy of a vote and McCain picked someone that I would not be comfortable with as president if something were to happen to him.
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It did not seem like he referenced her directly to me. People hear what they want to hear.
Why would you even think about using that line? It hadn't been used in main stream media in about a year.... So why would even want to take a chance with it after she said that during her speech...

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It's amusing when people use his middle name like it is going to throw up some flag related to the terrorist and make them not vote for him.
Thats his name.. Am I not allowed to address him by his full name?

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And you were in his pocket when this conversation went down?
Yes I was there... Of course not... But we all know what he meant...

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They all try and push the edge of where they can and can't go.
This is true... But he crossed the line... He knew it before he even said it. Just look at the smerky smile on his face after he said it...

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Personally I would never vote for either of these candidates. Neither one has talked about what they are going to do about real problems such as illegal immigration and outsourcing of US jobs overseas.

All they do is prance around making the statements they think Americans want to hear and when elected they will do nothing to really help the country.

Obama has not done anything in his current job to make me feel he is going to do great things for the country to make him worthy of a vote and McCain picked someone that I would not be comfortable with as president if something were to happen to him.
I guess you weren't comfortable with Bill Clinton either term then... Just a small town governor with little to no experience....
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Thats his name.. Am I not allowed to address him by his full name?

of course you are, but it was a valid observation strengthened by your referring to others on the stage simply by their last name (as most of us do). tis still a free country (contrary to what the current administration would want us to believe) and so say what you will, just don't get offended when someone calls a spade a spade.
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Thats his name.. Am I not allowed to address him by his full name?
Hey,

Sure you are. Why not do that for all candidates then?

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Yes I was there... Of course not... But we all know what he meant...
No we don't. Nuff Said.

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I guess you weren't comfortable with Bill Clinton either term then... Just a small town governor with little to no experience....
Never voted for the man. I did not say anything about experience or lack there of, I referred to accomplishments.

Someone with no experience could accomplish great things in a short time and vice versa.

To be honest I had not made up mind and was leaning toward McCain until his VP pick. Now IMHO neither of them is worthy of my vote so neither will get it.
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Never voted for the man. I did not say anything about experience or lack there of, I referred to accomplishments.

Someone with no experience could accomplish great things in a short time and vice versa..
I don't remember any Earth-shattering accomplishments for Clinton, nor Carter prior to their campaigns.

Obama has none, other than his current run, still.

The same could be said for Quayle, Ferraro, and Mondale when they were picked.

Remarkably, other than faltered prior runs for President, can't think of anything bold for Biden, either. I'll concede that he's respected, but honestly, off the top of your head, name 2 accomplishments, or "reforms" Biden has championed in his one hundred and eighty years in the Senate.

Not saying any are bad people. Just they were mostly known for the positions they held (if, at all). Not exactly for major, sweeping accomplishments in them. Certainly not before their runs for the White House.

More times than not, when VP candidates are announced, the next question most people could ask is, "who the heck is that"?
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I don't remember any Earth-shattering accomplishments for Clinton, nor Carter prior to their campaigns.

Obama has none, other than his current run, still.

The same could be said for Quayle, Ferraro, and Mondale when they were picked.

Remarkably, other than faltered prior runs for President, can't think of anything bold for Biden, either. I'll concede that he's respected, but honestly, off the top of your head, name 2 accomplishments, or "reforms" Biden has championed in his one hundred and eighty years in the Senate.

Not saying any are bad people. Just they were mostly known for the positions they held (if, at all). Not exactly for major, sweeping accomplishments in them. Certainly not before their runs for the White House.

More times than not, when VP candidates are announced, the next question most people could ask is, "who the heck is that"?
Hey,

I agree with most of that. She is the only VP pick that I can recall that I would be worried about at this point if she became president in mid term.

I would ask anyone to come up with 2 accomplishments anyone in Washington has done to greatly improve things in this country.
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I agree with most of that. She is the only VP pick that I can recall that I would be worried about at this point if she became president in mid term.
It may just be me, but I think she would be phenomenal, and kinda' regret she won't be starting as President in January.

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I would ask anyone to come up with 2 accomplishments anyone in Washington has done to greatly improve things in this country.
I'm with you there.

Hopefully, with all this talk of "change", some things may actually change for the better.
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Remarkably, other than faltered prior runs for President, can't think of anything bold for Biden, either. I'll concede that he's respected, but honestly, off the top of your head, name 2 accomplishments, or "reforms" Biden has championed in his one hundred and eighty years in the Senate.
Getting the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 passed.

Getting the Violence Against Women Act of 1994 passed.

Introduced legislation that changed college aid and loan programs so that families are allowed to deduct up to $10,000 per year in higher education expenses on their annual income tax returns

His "Kids 2000" legislation established a public/private partnership to provide computer centers, teachers, Internet access, and technical training to young people, particularly to low-income and at-risk youth.


There are more but IMHO these are the most important of his efforts and those with the largest impact on society.
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Hopefully, with all this talk of "change", some things may actually change for the better.
on that i think we can all agree
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