V.P. Pick

[rich76]

Paul Ryan.

Good pick or not?

[h20guy]

Originally Posted by rich76

Paul Ryan.

Good pick or not?

I think he's a adequate pick, but I think it hurts Romney. I sort of wanted to see Condoleezza Rice (but she didn't want it and I think there's too many Bush links with that pick).

Ryan is a lot like Palin (sorry), he's a likeable small town public official with virtually no foreign affairs experience!!! He can't "see" Russia, but he can just say Canada is within his horizon.

I think ultimately, it hurts Romney that Ryan is a CONGRESSMAN.

I do think Ryan is going to absolutely obliterate Biden in the debates.

Ryan's budget plan is going to be a HUGE topic in the coming months.

He's adequate, but there are some other candidates that would've helped Romney a little more. Ryan still might not give the ticket Wisconsin, a state that Obama took in '08.

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Originally Posted by h20guy

I think he's a adequate pick, but I think it hurts Romney. I sort of wanted to see Condoleezza Rice (but she didn't want it and I think there's too many Bush links with that pick).

Ryan is a lot like Palin (sorry), he's a likeable small town public official with virtually no foreign affairs experience!!! He can't "see" Russia, but he can just say Canada is within his horizon.

I think ultimately, it hurts Romney that Ryan is a CONGRESSMAN.

I do think Ryan is going to absolutely obliterate Biden in the debates.

Ryan's budget plan is going to be a HUGE topic in the coming months.

He's adequate, but there are some other candidates that would've helped Romney a little more. Ryan still might not give the ticket Wisconsin, a state that Obama took in '08.

Ryan is not Palin. He's been in DC most his adult life (its hard to find any private industry experience that Romney tauts). He's not a redneck out of his element and is fairly savvy with the press who wont give a deer in headlights look as an answer to a question from Katie Couric.

When I was perusing a conservative blog, a commentator there asked an interesting question: how does a Mormon/Catholic ticket affect the evengelical vote?

The Ryan Plan will be interesting. There was a NYT article a few weeks back that was talking about the Obama Super PAC team. They polled people on the Ryan Plan, and most people in that group (low info voters Im guessing) couldn't believe that a politician would favor turning medicare into vouchers to give the well off another tax break. Im guessing that wont fly too well in Florida (and maybe Arizona). In fact based on that (and that I found it very hard to think either him, T-Paw or Portman would help in any significant way to flip a rust belt state) its hard for me to think this choice was to help electorally in this election but to setup a top tier candidate for the 2016 election in case Mitt cant win this one.

[rich76]

IMHO this country is at a crossroads. We cannot continue with this unsustainable entitlement system as we know it. Medicare, SS etc are not going to effect the elderly as some libs would have us believe. Anyone born in 1957 or before...things will remain the same. I agree with Mark re: Ryan....he's no Palin....not even close. He is a brilliant economist and knows that things have to be addressed now...not later.

This congress is pitiful. They care only about their partisan agenda, and care nothing for the American people.

Romney doesn't appear to be concerned with a pick that "would help him get elected". He appears to care about fixing this broke system....and picked his running mate accordingly. He does not agree with everything in Ryans budget and I'm willing to bet that we'll be seeing another version of it soon.

Anyone who thinks this broken system can be fixed without high sacrifice from ALL is sadly mistaken. Spending has to be cut, entitlements have to be cut and taxes need to rise. Without those 3 things we are doomed to imminent failure.

[SiteWolf]

Reagan started the trickle down economic system- all that did was give the wealthy more liquid cash
W continued, even made things worse by putting in extra tax breaks for them
Obama had his chances to eliminating them, but didn't
Romney doesn't appear to be planning to if elected
Obama has the nerve to be bashing Romney in ads about it, despite doing the same thing himself

We're in big trouble. I'm all for capitalism and don't begrudge people for the money they've earned....but it shouldn't be earned by getting special breaks and abusing power to step on those who don't have that same power or earn enough to get those breaks.

Those with a lot have too much power to keep it that way and we don't seem to have a way to stop them.
Those who legitimately don't have much is getting to be a larger number, putting more pressure on the system.
Those who really shouldn't be but are using/abusing the system are not only putting more pressure on the system but causing more to legitimately end up there.

The middle class has been the backbone of this country, but that back is breaking

[SayOw]

Cheney has probably been the only exception, but for the most part, a vice president is just a background person that provides a sound bite now and then.

People that concern themselves with a candidates vice president choice have way too much time on their hands.

And I think whether it be Obama or Romney elected the country will continue as it has for several decades now, civil liberties being taken away, more "criminals" being created with the middle class continuing to evaporate as the rich get richer. I fear that Romney may be worse for the middle class, but I certainly don't think Obama has helped them either.

Continued abuse in the financial markets will also be the norm. Where "power players" are given the tools to bilk money from unsuspecting investors. Congress will act "stunned" and promise reform...always in a knee-jerk, after-the-fact manner as it always does, but will not actually "solve" any problems.

[SayOw]

The Romney-Ryan economic plan will likely:

Cut income and corporate taxes
Eliminate at least some tax deductions (neither candidate has mentioned specific ones)
Preserve defense spending
Cut Medicare spending
Trim other government spending
Gradually shrink the budget deficit but not balance the budget for a least a decade

At a more detailed level, the Romney-Ryan plan will likely lead to the highest-income Americans paying less in taxes, while making lower- and middle-income Americans pay more (through elimination of tax deductions that disproportionately help these Americans). Earlier this year, the Tax Policy Center found that Romney's tax plan would reduce effective tax rates for the the richest Americans and raise them for the poorest.

Full story here.

[rich76]

I haven't seen a "Romney/Ryan economic plan". I've seen Ryan's.....and I'm waiting to see Romney's. I'm sure the final draft will be a combination of both. The reality is that whichever plan is submitted will be up the Congress to pass.

[rose4prez]

Same shi*. Different piles.

[rose4prez]

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[rich76]

now THAT is a scary pic

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Originally Posted by rich76

now THAT is a scary pic

Whereas this pic of Biden with some biker folk is freaking hilarious. It's the kind of thing that would put an Onion writer out of business cause how can your parody the dude after this.

[rich76]

Uncle Joe the drunk......VP.....priceless. I KNOW he didn't know what state he was in.

[rose4prez]